Holdin' Down The Culture
The Internet is a crazy place. The mature person, in heart and mind, develops the necessary skillset of not taking personal events online that offline would be considered outrageous.
Moving on, Talib Kweli found himself yesterday (12/12) engaging in an e-beef with a “National Socialist/ Libertarian.” Kweli went on to call the guy (Twitter user @vitaljoey aka Joey Vitali) a “Nazi” and from the looks of things Kweli showed off a brochure highlighting why: Not only does this social group take on the moniker “national socialist” similar to the German Nazi party of Adolph Hitler but it also seems to use the same logo.
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Kweli and Joey engaged in a Twitter back-and-forth where each person claimed the other was playing chicken. Catch their e-exchange below. It seems from the discussion Kweli and the said-Twitter user have a history with one another.
This conversation starts (for the sake of time) with the following 3rd person commentary.
Theory into practice. @VitaliJoey you've been harrasing Talib for 4 days straight, and before from the sounds. Calling him "boy" threatening to slap him, telling him the whole time you wanted a face to face. A car comes to pick you up and you vanish? All that energy was an act
— Themidlandhuman (@themidlandhuman) December 13, 2019
@VitaliJoey you literally tweeted a video a minute saying you were out then went silent for the entire 15 minutes Talib was saying the car was there. You can even scroll back and match the 15 minuet gap. You then popped up with the videos. Tonight you weren't the man you thought
— Themidlandhuman (@themidlandhuman) December 13, 2019
@TalibKweli I was out there. Your acting like you didn't cancel the ride the minute after you took those shots. Stfu. I'm sure you didnt thi k I was gonna do it. Then I posted videos so you called the car waited and cancelled. I was out there and there's video evidence. Coward https://t.co/CXa4AheVjD
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 13, 2019
@VitaliJoey so on top of all your other racist ignorance, you also have a problem with black men who are well-educated…wow. Why, is it bc their education makes you feel intimidated, inferior, insecure, small? What other ways do you cling to your delusion of white supremacy?
— Julia Deutsch (@julesesq) December 13, 2019
Notice @joeyvitali was tagged in the following tweet. It appears this e-beef is rooted in politics.
You call Kamala Harris a cop because she was a DA. ADOS founder @tonetalks was also a DA. If Kamala is a cop, so is he. Keep that same energy. #ADOSisthePOLICE @dosfbk @uggernaught @vitalijoey @sean_fontes @getopenmic @lastsonofwest https://t.co/QbljXlC0cM
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 13, 2019
Kweli does get passionate about his viewpoints. Oftentimes he does a good job of finding facts to back up his opinions but tends to drag on discussions unnecessarily.
Just like a racist you blame a black man for your lack of self control. “It’s not my fault! He baited me!!!” Y’all so fragile and y’all lack accountability. How I bait you? By existing? Dumb racist. @joshkimerling @lastsonofwest @vitalijoey @getopenmic @sean_fontes @uggernaught https://t.co/3UABc7fYhG
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 13, 2019
A groyper toad huh? You going straight nazi tonight huh. #adoslovesnazis
RT @DosFbk: @MastermindAnon @2Photon2020 @Uggernaught @TalibKweli @joshkimerling @VitaliJoey @getOpenmic @sean_fontes @LastSonofWest @Themis_Eirene Uh yeah. This is you tho pic.twitter.com/Pdoafvl4aA
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 13, 2019
In the following tweet someone in the Twitter conversation presupposes that a fake account is being used in the conversation.
You’re not black. You’re a nazi account.
RT @Ak1nt0la: @TalibKweli @joshkimerling @LastSonofWest @VitaliJoey @getOpenmic @sean_fontes @Uggernaught TKG is the racist here, always trying to sow division.
I love my black brothers.— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 13, 2019
Here's another clear case of you both being wrong @TalibKweli . There are a lot of racists, but not everyone who challenges you is a nazi or racist. You lole to say they are because it gives you the click bait you so desperately seek. https://t.co/txO0RljZoN
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 10, 2019
1. Historically Africans sold slaves to Europeans and then Americans. But I still dont call African Americans slave traders or slave trader lovers. 2. Italy supporting nazis in the 40s doesn't give someone the right to call a cuban italian american a nazi lover. You played yoself https://t.co/cQOKatk6wR
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 10, 2019
Saying I'm a nazi lover because I'm italian because of word war 2 is like me saying everyone from Rwanda is a machete wielding psychopath because of the Rwandan massacre. You get how that line of thinking is so fucking stupid? https://t.co/cQOKatk6wR
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 10, 2019
Omg @TalibKweli you did not just use going to italy as an excuse to call me nazi lover? I've been to Spain, mexico, cuba, south Africa, belgium, France and england. I dont use my world traveling as an excuse to use slurs. Congratulations. You played yourself. https://t.co/Ocz1PmCdcL
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 10, 2019
My grandfather fled italy to come to America and then fight the nazis. Congratulations. You played yourself again preppy. https://t.co/1nIKi4EuaD
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 10, 2019
Omg this dude @TalibKweli tried the " I've been to cuba so I can say that argument." So gross. My mother and her family fought and continue to fight oppression in cuba everyday. My mother worked on a farm in cuba for five years all to come here with nothing. How bout yours preppy https://t.co/9TccImDPtS
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 10, 2019
Woah I had nothing to do with that. I dont attack people's children @TalibKweli. You have a lot of people that hate you and some are pretty big pieces of shit. If you wanna single me out that's fine. I forgive you and I see why something like this would get to you. Its egregious https://t.co/6XKu8py6U8
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 11, 2019
Dont you worry @TalibKweli. I'm not gonna hurt you. The way you talk shit I didnt realize you scare so easy. Although your voice is really high so you having little balls would make sense. I guess boarding school doesn't exactly teach you to talk and back it up just talk. Preppy. https://t.co/GE4K1VPPTS
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 11, 2019
Using propaganda like a nazi to call someone a nazi is disgusting @TalibKweli especially when that person's family fought the nazis. I grew up with, am friends with and work with jewish people. You're lies are undermining what my jewish friends actually went through and its gross https://t.co/Rq5odwF0aR
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 11, 2019
INTERJECTION
And @VitaliJoey if you are filled with confusion as to why in your mind you aren't a racist but this black person disagreeing with you has brought up something inside you that you can't seem to let for off… the answer to that is the subconscious racism you claim doesn't exist.
— Themidlandhuman (@themidlandhuman) December 11, 2019
Oh yeah? @TalibKweli pull up your arrest record. Dont say you were brutalized by the police thats another lie. A lie that undermines a lot of my friends and other black people who are still being brutalized by the police. Shut your mouth with your devil lies. https://t.co/Kw7MBzwPOY
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 12, 2019
I have absolutely been brutalized by the police you nazi piece of shit. Going to boarding school doesn’t stop racism or police brutality from happening to black ppl you sick racist fuck. You only WISH it did because you’re racist. But pull up tho. @vitalijoey https://t.co/wSYJWBxnMd
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 12, 2019
Long story short Kweli and the Twitter User continue to have a heated exchange before they call each other out to fight.
Where is the fucking ride
Stop bullshitting you little coward https://t.co/pgdo0dzTWX pic.twitter.com/mu1X6wyY8x— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 12, 2019
Post video. Soon as you do we pulling up. You scared? @vitalijoey https://t.co/WzFQ7hqrta
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 12, 2019
Prove it. Post a video. Say my name too so I know it’s you I’m the video coward. The second you do we pulling up. Don’t be scared Joseph. I wanna see you. @vitalijoey https://t.co/iv3FvTYquY
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 12, 2019
I don’t believe you are there. If you are, you’re on a cellphone with camera and internet. So take a 5 second video of yourself and post it. The moment you prove you there, the car will pull up. Why you so scared? @vitalijoey https://t.co/hc01FMoYS8
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 12, 2019
His Nazi mom called him inside for some Sunny D and told him to stop playing on his phone in the rain. pic.twitter.com/XSk71yybu9
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 13, 2019
Yeah I was there. Tour little cut off screen dowsnt even show the location my videos are all real and current fuck you coward. Come to fort Lauderdale or Miami of you could find a venue that will still take you coward https://t.co/b2cL7F8nRB pic.twitter.com/eTpRThGVup
— Joey Vitali (@VitaliJoey) December 13, 2019
Why didn’t you get in the car? Dude called your name and everything. I just got off the phone with him. Where were you? Nazi coward. @vitalijoey https://t.co/n0KNwGio8I
— Talib Kweli Greene (@TalibKweli) December 13, 2019
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